Andy, I am with you totally and what you propose is absolutely in the right spirit. However we need to do this piece by piece for obvious reasons. The next significant event piece that needs our collective attention is the coronation oath. King Charles as ‘First Among Equals’ under our constitution has to protect our rights as citizens. While he was Prince of Wales he supported and introduced the Great Reset. As King Charles cannot where two hats at the same time. He must include in his coronation oath his promise to uphold the constitution, his most important role as monarch and reject the Great Reset which is very detrimental to the interests of the citizens of the U.K. If he fails to do so there is no need for a monarchy. The Magna Carta is still as valid today as it was when it was signed. Since 1659 this important document has not been upheld. The ruling monarchs since that time have not protected our constitutional rights, including Ahis mother, Queen Elizabeth. During her 70 year reign she allowed parliament to create statutes that are not in the people’s best interests. You may already know about this already so I apologise if you do but please refer to www.commonlawconstitution.Org and it will confirm. Steps have been taken to alert Charles as to his constitutional duties. If he ignores them he will be failing in his duty and his position of monarch will become a mockery. May 6th is the date to watch for and from this date either he performs or otherwise all bets are off.
Andy, but elections are a sham, whoever gets elected. Shouldn't the revamp of 'the system' start from further back, such as by beginning with eliminating professional politicians (you may interpret that to mean either their jobs, or their physical selves, if you will), eliminating the profession of the politician entirely, and eliminating the political party artifice once and for all. That whole paradigm was contrived to present a false dichotomy, and to entrench a Red Team/Blue Team model and mentality, which is an easily manipulable construct with which to polarise the populace, exploit division, and furthermore, it's at the very heart of the us/them duality necessary for stoking xenophobia and war-mongering. Enough!
Governance of the community is the responsibility of the community, so everyone in the community must directly take part in it. If someone doesn't want to or can't, then a proxy must be appointed from the community, but no-one must ever seek or receive, nor should the avenue ever be provided for pay, kick-backs, bribes, or financial incentives of any kind, ever.
And another thing, this is key: never, ever should someone who lives on the other side of the valley, the county, or the nation ever be saddled with the responsibility/privilege/turpitude to make decisions that directly affect us personally. No one must ever gain or seize the power to decide for someone else they do not personally know, or someone who has none or limited access or ability to wring their bloody necks if their decision has caused grievance or disadvantage.
Enough with that tired chestnut of 'writing to your member of parliament!' Because your member of parliament never felt the heat of certain retribution for their corruption and immorality burning their rump, there was never a chance that the member's behaviour was ever going to be otherwise. And that is exactly how it was intended for it to be.
Thank you Martin, and GregB, and Andy, and Denise, and anyone else I may have missed. I think I've clearly made the main point I'm trying to put across, and it is this: the professional politician career of the representational "democracy" (quotes, because it is nothing of the sort) we've had dropped on us is not just a worn-out and moth-eaten paradigm, it is pernicious, anti-human, and it has been killing generation after generations of us, and never more than right now. The party political system fields full-time contrivers of deceit and intriguers to thwart, mislead, and generally oppose the people.
The fact is, we just don't need government for governance. And in fact we don't need that much governance for a start. Actually, what we need is governance WITHOUT government, because government has always been about preventing the people from looking after themselves, their communities, and their interests. It really is that simple.
If government were really ours (and of course it most certainly is NOT), then at the very least our own parents and their parents before them would have been able to clearly relate to us our kinship with some or all of the people in government, and we'd happily have them on our Christmas card lists. What we have instead is some disgusting Eton toff as PM of the UK, a cabinet of Eton-Oxford gangsters, and a coterie of utterly loathsome Yale Skull and Bones scoundrels all over Washington. The Australian counterparts are the most conceited, narcissistic and noxious reprobates. These people are not our people - they are criminals, and they have overstayed their sojourn on our little blue and green planet.
Regrettably Andy I fear that the collapse cannot be stopped. The physics of complex adaptive systems dictates that when complexity becomes too great the system collapses under its own dynamic like a sand-pile when just one extra grain causes a sudden collapse to a less complex and smaller scale. Here is the logic:
Spot on Andy - another rebel to join the club (the little one, not the BIG one). My good friend Niall Warry is a political chap (I'm more a homespun economist looking to create a local economic model). Niall's blog is here: https://harrogateagenda.org.uk/
But we do need people like Andy & Niall in our local economy to assist with public governance and networking with other local hubs - it's not my forte.
IMO, it is vitally important that people come to realize that 'government authority' has no legitimacy whatsoever. THEN people can free themselves from its grip.
Absolutely. The model would be something like traditional Switzerland, but central governments abuse their powers, and force local decisions out of the panel.
That's the only way to go. Switzerland, until recently, has been working on the local levels. It is essential to go back there. People with cameras at town meetings posting how reps cast votes is a good start. The crooks usually try to turn the meetings into closed meetings, but they are not entitled to do that. Only "national security" can do it. Once people in a township/town/district keep together, they can defy the federal government for a while. Of course, what will be possible to do, after the killing fields open up?
Also, voting has been rigged in many ways for a long time. Even if the movement wins, what would prevent intimidation/payoffs so that the newly-elected will still represent their electorate?
Thank you, Andy. You're right: Consciousness and protest is rising to correspond with the crimes and threats we see in 2023. Millions ARE acting ... outside electoral politics. To me, one great step is withdrawing We Masses' wealth from the WEF's 100 Strategic Partners and strengthening alternative, local economies. Organic farms and commerce is growing! https://donpaulwearerev.com/flipping-the-script/local-control-and-organic-solutions
How is it actionable? Sometimes something is actionable in theory - but not if you look at the reality, like the beliefs of people who would need to vote out the MPs. Anyway what are the concrete next steps so this happens?
I keep my questions: HOW are you going to get this done? How many people needed to carry this out? How are you going to get them involved? How will you pay for the whole page advertisement? How do you get the locally organized vote of no confidence. I see lots of dream strategies, no plan on how to implement.
I was thrilled to read your sentiments because yes we've been scammed up the wazoo. And the future is going to be beyond horrific. But what is happening is that reality is coming to light. Nobody can represent you. Giving your power to others just keeps the same system going of your remaining a child needing a parent to decide your life for you. Now we must go peer-to-peer not upstream to daddy. We have the most important tool humans could ever have, digital technology. We can make proposals ourselves and our peers vote on proposals. We need to make new systems, of consensus and of money. We cannot keep using centralized currencies. By keeping these two systems in place we are actually cutting our own throats. It's time for a whole new world where YOU are the sovereign and so are your peers. Everyone is a peer and nobody is above or below.
No because then they just don't get it. We have been gentle - they wear their masks and even though it makes us want to puke from their utter stupidity, we let them do it regardless because we believe in freedom. But turn the tables and the mandates come in again and you can bet they won't be gentle with you.
I concur. When I was growing up, with strict Christian moral guidance, I was often counseled to tolerate and have compassion for the ignorant and/or the less informed. At almost every opportunity, whenever I had the presence of mind to recognise that such circumstances had arisen, I did as I was advised, believing also that empathy would surely help foster the general improvement I believed was desperately needed in the world.
But things just kept getting worse - much worse. Then, finally, I arrived where we all find ourselves today.
I've often wondered if perhaps the moral codes proclaimed by the great religions might be in fact or in part simply instruments for the wreckage that has taken place? But I digress.
I think in fact the moral code that suggests we "turn the other cheek" or have compassion for the ignorant, is deliberately orchestrated to protect ignorance. Rulers can only rule by having an ignorant population. They know human psychology and the ones who rule wrote the books that laid down the culture and the religion. Of course they had to put in the "nice bits" in order to appeal to people's sense of righteousness. But it was very deliberate in my view and quite cunningly brilliant.
I'm glad you see it this way as well. This chimes with conclusions I myself have drawn. I think you've articulated cogently and with surety that which I only alluded to earlier but refrained from expanding upon. I think these are topics which are acutely deserving of focus and expansion, but perhaps not at the present moment so as not to hijack this Substack's main themes.
I will add that government, or individual officers within it but never the whole thing, must occasionally represent itself well, or well enough in order to win the approval of the people. Think of the services that are reluctantly provided (medical, pensions, infrastructure - the objects themselves, if not not their quality or execution), which are then progressively degraded or removed once their deceptive purpose has been achieved. Of course, there is no fundamental reason why services should be monopolised by government and used as political footballs, but the delusional electorate seems to have wholly swallowed the deceit that it is for these services that taxes are necessary and should be paid to government. Fools.
I don't see that expansion on this subject will in any way hijack this substack. It could very well enhance it, why see it like that? Life is not linear. Who decides what is relevant? Best that we simply exert freedom of speech, let it out how we wish and if someone has an objection, it can be handled then rather than censor ourselves over these unspoken rules. I'm with you on the way people can be so thoroughly deceived and it is wretched to witness. It's probably the worse thing about this whole debacle.
https://hannenabintuherland.com/currentaffairs/india-charges-who-scientist-soumya-swaminathan-for-mass-murder-the-beginning-of-accountability/
Some good news
Margot excellent news indeed. There is a civil action against the 4 main gov wretches in UK. SA is also starting court cases against their miscreants.
Thank you for the link. Appreciated.
Andy, I am with you totally and what you propose is absolutely in the right spirit. However we need to do this piece by piece for obvious reasons. The next significant event piece that needs our collective attention is the coronation oath. King Charles as ‘First Among Equals’ under our constitution has to protect our rights as citizens. While he was Prince of Wales he supported and introduced the Great Reset. As King Charles cannot where two hats at the same time. He must include in his coronation oath his promise to uphold the constitution, his most important role as monarch and reject the Great Reset which is very detrimental to the interests of the citizens of the U.K. If he fails to do so there is no need for a monarchy. The Magna Carta is still as valid today as it was when it was signed. Since 1659 this important document has not been upheld. The ruling monarchs since that time have not protected our constitutional rights, including Ahis mother, Queen Elizabeth. During her 70 year reign she allowed parliament to create statutes that are not in the people’s best interests. You may already know about this already so I apologise if you do but please refer to www.commonlawconstitution.Org and it will confirm. Steps have been taken to alert Charles as to his constitutional duties. If he ignores them he will be failing in his duty and his position of monarch will become a mockery. May 6th is the date to watch for and from this date either he performs or otherwise all bets are off.
Thanks Chali for the link. Appreciated.
Michael O'Bernica is trying a legal route in the UK!
https://www.thebernician.net/crimes-of-covid1984-podcast-case-against-hancock/
Andy, but elections are a sham, whoever gets elected. Shouldn't the revamp of 'the system' start from further back, such as by beginning with eliminating professional politicians (you may interpret that to mean either their jobs, or their physical selves, if you will), eliminating the profession of the politician entirely, and eliminating the political party artifice once and for all. That whole paradigm was contrived to present a false dichotomy, and to entrench a Red Team/Blue Team model and mentality, which is an easily manipulable construct with which to polarise the populace, exploit division, and furthermore, it's at the very heart of the us/them duality necessary for stoking xenophobia and war-mongering. Enough!
Governance of the community is the responsibility of the community, so everyone in the community must directly take part in it. If someone doesn't want to or can't, then a proxy must be appointed from the community, but no-one must ever seek or receive, nor should the avenue ever be provided for pay, kick-backs, bribes, or financial incentives of any kind, ever.
And another thing, this is key: never, ever should someone who lives on the other side of the valley, the county, or the nation ever be saddled with the responsibility/privilege/turpitude to make decisions that directly affect us personally. No one must ever gain or seize the power to decide for someone else they do not personally know, or someone who has none or limited access or ability to wring their bloody necks if their decision has caused grievance or disadvantage.
Enough with that tired chestnut of 'writing to your member of parliament!' Because your member of parliament never felt the heat of certain retribution for their corruption and immorality burning their rump, there was never a chance that the member's behaviour was ever going to be otherwise. And that is exactly how it was intended for it to be.
Thank you Martin, and GregB, and Andy, and Denise, and anyone else I may have missed. I think I've clearly made the main point I'm trying to put across, and it is this: the professional politician career of the representational "democracy" (quotes, because it is nothing of the sort) we've had dropped on us is not just a worn-out and moth-eaten paradigm, it is pernicious, anti-human, and it has been killing generation after generations of us, and never more than right now. The party political system fields full-time contrivers of deceit and intriguers to thwart, mislead, and generally oppose the people.
The fact is, we just don't need government for governance. And in fact we don't need that much governance for a start. Actually, what we need is governance WITHOUT government, because government has always been about preventing the people from looking after themselves, their communities, and their interests. It really is that simple.
If government were really ours (and of course it most certainly is NOT), then at the very least our own parents and their parents before them would have been able to clearly relate to us our kinship with some or all of the people in government, and we'd happily have them on our Christmas card lists. What we have instead is some disgusting Eton toff as PM of the UK, a cabinet of Eton-Oxford gangsters, and a coterie of utterly loathsome Yale Skull and Bones scoundrels all over Washington. The Australian counterparts are the most conceited, narcissistic and noxious reprobates. These people are not our people - they are criminals, and they have overstayed their sojourn on our little blue and green planet.
Look out next Saturday Andy - you are in my SURVIVAL MONITOR. Good stuff my friend - go well
Blessings
AP
Regrettably Andy I fear that the collapse cannot be stopped. The physics of complex adaptive systems dictates that when complexity becomes too great the system collapses under its own dynamic like a sand-pile when just one extra grain causes a sudden collapse to a less complex and smaller scale. Here is the logic:
https://austrianpeter.substack.com/p/the-financial-jigsaw-part-2-the-end?s=w
And here is a master on complexity describing the same thing:
http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2022/05/what-happens-when-complexity-unravels.html
I will leave you (and Niall) to the politics because you guys will be essential in the New Emergent Economy as it becomes visible.
Spot on Andy - another rebel to join the club (the little one, not the BIG one). My good friend Niall Warry is a political chap (I'm more a homespun economist looking to create a local economic model). Niall's blog is here: https://harrogateagenda.org.uk/
Andy,
I appreciate the intention, but the system cannot be changed from the inside:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/changing-the-system-from-the-inside
It's already illegitimate:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/hijacked-governments
The enforcers during the plandemic were busy making sure that the sheeple were wearing their muzzles properly:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/who-wudda-thunk
I agree although my good friend Niall Warry thinks like Andy:
https://harrogateagenda.org.uk/
I believe in a local economic solution and DO NOT COMPLY with WEF or whatever unelected illegitimate arsehole.
https://austrianpeter.substack.com/p/the-financial-jigsaw-part-2-special-36e?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
But we do need people like Andy & Niall in our local economy to assist with public governance and networking with other local hubs - it's not my forte.
Ray is actually working at a local scale in UK.
Being done & in action. Right now in UK.
https://holdourvote.org/
Andy - Agreed. Community level is the final endpoint of any political hierarchy. Anything larger is utterly unworkable.
For solid, irrefutable confirmation that any political unit larger than local community is immoral, illegitimate and unworkable, see here:
https://www.freeyourmindaz.com/uploads/1/2/8/3/12830241/the-most-dangerous-superstition-larken-rose-2011.pdf
IMO, it is vitally important that people come to realize that 'government authority' has no legitimacy whatsoever. THEN people can free themselves from its grip.
BDev Thank you for the link to the book. Appreciated.
Absolutely. The model would be something like traditional Switzerland, but central governments abuse their powers, and force local decisions out of the panel.
Bravo Bdev - exactly my position too. https://austrianpeter.substack.com/p/the-financial-jigsaw-part-2-localisation?s=w
That's the only way to go. Switzerland, until recently, has been working on the local levels. It is essential to go back there. People with cameras at town meetings posting how reps cast votes is a good start. The crooks usually try to turn the meetings into closed meetings, but they are not entitled to do that. Only "national security" can do it. Once people in a township/town/district keep together, they can defy the federal government for a while. Of course, what will be possible to do, after the killing fields open up?
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/a-shortlist-of-whats-coming
Also, voting has been rigged in many ways for a long time. Even if the movement wins, what would prevent intimidation/payoffs so that the newly-elected will still represent their electorate?
Thank you, Andy. You're right: Consciousness and protest is rising to correspond with the crimes and threats we see in 2023. Millions ARE acting ... outside electoral politics. To me, one great step is withdrawing We Masses' wealth from the WEF's 100 Strategic Partners and strengthening alternative, local economies. Organic farms and commerce is growing! https://donpaulwearerev.com/flipping-the-script/local-control-and-organic-solutions
Yep it's growing Don and I am with you 100%: https://austrianpeter.substack.com/p/the-financial-jigsaw-part-2-localisation?s=w
What you call for is not action-able. What is action-able?
Completely actionable in the UK. Any MP can be Surely could be adjusted for any country.
How is it actionable? Sometimes something is actionable in theory - but not if you look at the reality, like the beliefs of people who would need to vote out the MPs. Anyway what are the concrete next steps so this happens?
1. Recorded delivery letter to the MP's constituency office. Copied to their Parliamentary office. Pointing out their failings.
2. Raise local area awareness by. Petition the local constituency area. Leaflets, flyers, local area press, whole page advertisement. social media.
All pointing out the abject failure & neglect, to protect the people in that constituency.
Locally organised vote of no confidence in the MP.
Only 10% of constituents required to force a by election in the constituency.
I keep my questions: HOW are you going to get this done? How many people needed to carry this out? How are you going to get them involved? How will you pay for the whole page advertisement? How do you get the locally organized vote of no confidence. I see lots of dream strategies, no plan on how to implement.
Being done & in action. Right now in UK.
https://holdourvote.org/
FABULOUS!! I love it when people act and do.
I was thrilled to read your sentiments because yes we've been scammed up the wazoo. And the future is going to be beyond horrific. But what is happening is that reality is coming to light. Nobody can represent you. Giving your power to others just keeps the same system going of your remaining a child needing a parent to decide your life for you. Now we must go peer-to-peer not upstream to daddy. We have the most important tool humans could ever have, digital technology. We can make proposals ourselves and our peers vote on proposals. We need to make new systems, of consensus and of money. We cannot keep using centralized currencies. By keeping these two systems in place we are actually cutting our own throats. It's time for a whole new world where YOU are the sovereign and so are your peers. Everyone is a peer and nobody is above or below.
There is a lot of history to support your desire Denise. Here's just one of many local models: https://austrianpeter.substack.com/p/progressing-plan-b-a-quarterly-review?s=w
Denise thanks for your comment. Yes to our own individualism 100%.
But I thought it would be better to ease the woke/daft/blind to reality majority. in gently!
No because then they just don't get it. We have been gentle - they wear their masks and even though it makes us want to puke from their utter stupidity, we let them do it regardless because we believe in freedom. But turn the tables and the mandates come in again and you can bet they won't be gentle with you.
I concur. When I was growing up, with strict Christian moral guidance, I was often counseled to tolerate and have compassion for the ignorant and/or the less informed. At almost every opportunity, whenever I had the presence of mind to recognise that such circumstances had arisen, I did as I was advised, believing also that empathy would surely help foster the general improvement I believed was desperately needed in the world.
But things just kept getting worse - much worse. Then, finally, I arrived where we all find ourselves today.
I've often wondered if perhaps the moral codes proclaimed by the great religions might be in fact or in part simply instruments for the wreckage that has taken place? But I digress.
I think in fact the moral code that suggests we "turn the other cheek" or have compassion for the ignorant, is deliberately orchestrated to protect ignorance. Rulers can only rule by having an ignorant population. They know human psychology and the ones who rule wrote the books that laid down the culture and the religion. Of course they had to put in the "nice bits" in order to appeal to people's sense of righteousness. But it was very deliberate in my view and quite cunningly brilliant.
I'm glad you see it this way as well. This chimes with conclusions I myself have drawn. I think you've articulated cogently and with surety that which I only alluded to earlier but refrained from expanding upon. I think these are topics which are acutely deserving of focus and expansion, but perhaps not at the present moment so as not to hijack this Substack's main themes.
I will add that government, or individual officers within it but never the whole thing, must occasionally represent itself well, or well enough in order to win the approval of the people. Think of the services that are reluctantly provided (medical, pensions, infrastructure - the objects themselves, if not not their quality or execution), which are then progressively degraded or removed once their deceptive purpose has been achieved. Of course, there is no fundamental reason why services should be monopolised by government and used as political footballs, but the delusional electorate seems to have wholly swallowed the deceit that it is for these services that taxes are necessary and should be paid to government. Fools.
I don't see that expansion on this subject will in any way hijack this substack. It could very well enhance it, why see it like that? Life is not linear. Who decides what is relevant? Best that we simply exert freedom of speech, let it out how we wish and if someone has an objection, it can be handled then rather than censor ourselves over these unspoken rules. I'm with you on the way people can be so thoroughly deceived and it is wretched to witness. It's probably the worse thing about this whole debacle.